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#1 demotest

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 01:25 PM

Hi Host 1 Free Haphost!

Hopefully, things are little settled now :)

 

I have 2 questions:

 

Q1: I have built VPS with Ubuntu 13.10_x86-64 container and tried to install debian/ubuntu amd 64-bit package.

However  I receive following error:

package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)

Hmmm, checking the sys info I am indeed running Intel CPU, but why this error is not present under Ubuntu 12.10 x86_64, my earlier VPS container where this package worked without any issues?

 

Solution: I have installed 32-bit package 386 version (since 64-bit is not available for Intel) as a temp solution. I am not sure if this is optimal, mixing 32-bit apps and 64-bit architecture.

 

Any light you could shed on this? Very much appreciated.

processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 58
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
stepping        : 9
cpu MHz         : 848.056
cache size      : 8192 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 8
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 4
apicid          : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms
bogomips        : 6784.45
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

...

 

Q2: In my VPS management panel it is stated that I am running:

Operating System:ubuntu-12.04-x86_64

but this is not true. As a proof, here is sys info from SSH console:

lsb_release -s -d
Ubuntu 13.10

Thanks,

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#2 demotest

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 01:39 PM

Hmm, after reading some more and checking with other commands, it seems that I am actually on a 32-bit system, after all:

uname -a
Linux 2.6.32-042stab090.4 #1 SMP Mon Jun 16 15:13:38 MSK 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux

i686 indicates 32-bit system, how could this be?

 

Thanks,

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:33 AM

[Thread Moved: General Discussions → Ask Haphost ]

 

Hi There demotest,

 

As this thread is regarding a Question I will move this Thread over to the

Ask Haphost section, please post in the correct section :)

 

Kind Regards,

Conner


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#4 demotest

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:40 AM

Sorry ConnerT,

I am still adapting to the new forum layout, didn't notice tutorial part in the main title of original category.

 

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#5 demotest

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:21 AM

Anyone?



#6 Onii-sama

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:39 PM

i686 is indeed 32 Bit while x86_64 is Intel's way to say 64 Bit (AMD who invented the first real 64 Bit CPUs are naming 64 Bit arch "AMD64" but it's the same anyway).

 

I guess it is a template name mismatch or someone failed at naming templates.


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#7 demotest

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:50 PM

I guess it is a template name mismatch or someone failed at naming templates.

 

 

My thoughts exactly, Onii-sama.

 

I am in a real doubt to rebuild, what if the issue remains, then it will be a waste of time.

 

Still waiting for an official answer.

 

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#8 Onii-sama

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:58 PM

If you have nothing critical on your VPS rebuild and see whether the other template is AMD64/x86_64. If it's not it's a issue only the HapHost staff can fix.

 

Try Debian ;) It's the real thing while Ubuntu is based on Debian but bloated and full of malware.


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#9 demotest

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:06 PM

Hi,

I will test "32 bit" version and see later.

 

I am really satisfied with Ubuntu 13.10, lot of newer packages then 12.10. I have tested CentOS 6.5 64 before, but official packages for it are a bit outdated, and installing 3rd party ones did not always work for me. I am a newbie in Linux world, but have learned a lot past 3-4 months.

 

Can you elaborate a bit 'malware' part? I did not notice anything unusual with 13.10 (well, except troubles with MySQL installation issue that is well documented on H-1-F/Haphost).

 

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#10 Onii-sama

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:09 PM

Ubuntu, especially Ubuntu for desktop, has a lot of tracking software that calls home (this is simply malware because it does it without asking you). Moreover Ubuntu contains plugins for their software center and other components that ignore your privacy and send data about you to the company behind Ubuntu. One thing is the Amazon search and it's well known that it's calling home and sending data about you without your premission.

 

Use Debian 7 instead. If you want newer packages on CentOS use repos.


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#11 demotest

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:21 PM

Hmm, thanks for your advice. I will try Debian, commands are same and folder structure, at least it should be same.

 

Well, I did use Ubuntu desktop edition on couple of occasions for specific tasks Windows was simply 'too dumb' to perform, but I wish to believe that server edition is stripped off all such things. There is no browser, desktop environment etc. just a command line.

 

But, thanks again for opening my eyes ;)

Regards and all the best!



#12 Onii-sama

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:26 PM

Debian is the real thing. Ubuntu is based on Debian because Debian is a solid base. There are a lot of Linux distributions that are based on Debian.


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